Oh my god. What am I doing? Hi! Welcome to Just Thinking Out Loud. My name is Desi-Rae. This is a heavy video, just a
warning. A heavy response is required in response to the crap that is out there.
I hope you’re doing well. So in my first video on inequality, I argued that
inequality is a natural state of human affairs, that people may want to fight it
but that this should be done in ways that don’t infringe on the freedom and
agency of others. I specifically talk about focusing on creating
self-sufficiency rather than rewarding people with the end products of material
wealth. However I also want to delve into the current data that tells us we live
in an unequal society, to focus on how data is used to play into people’s
perceptions of the world they live in as being unfair. I think people should be
skeptical of what they are constantly being told, understanding that
politicians and the media like to tell people what they want to hear and
present the world in a way which is unjust, in order to propose solutions to
our problems that they can solve. I think people need to understand that this is
their job, because their livelihood depends on the public’s positive
perception of them. A politician’s job is to tell you what you want to hear
even if they are coming from a place of good intentions or are ignorant of more
information. I want to bring this up not only to question what we hear but to
point out that people who are trying to help others, in truth or in deceit, may be
ignoring the effects of constantly pushing this information, and ignoring
other avenues of helping others. Before I continue – I am neither a statistician nor
an economist but I do understand certain topics and I have studied both
those subjects at school, and did well in them.
First of all, data is like a woman getting hit on. The same data can give
you a different answer depending on which way you approach it.
(I almost said her.) The research shouldn’t be presented
without holding all relevant variables constant, specifically those that are
known to influence the outcome. For example, sometimes the relevant data
can’t even be collected for when talking about income. Showing that groups with
the same education level earn different amounts on average is near meaningless.
Not all education is the same whether in quality or degree of relevant
specialization to the job. And it is hard to find data that does hold other
variables constants when describing these things. I saw some crap from Ihlan
Omar about the gender pay gap recently. Still! Still! Yes people still think this.
It’s terrible. It’s so terrible. It is hard to find data that does hold other
variables constants when describing these things. I would think that this
data is difficult to collect in the first place, so we should be wary that
the data is not giving us the whole picture. Perhaps you can talk about
groups in terms of black and white but what happens when you break it down
further. You could break groups further down, into
African immigrants versus native black Americans, or Americans with Eastern
European heritage versus Western European heritage, or Italian Americans
versus Irish Americans. You’re going to get a different message. I’m not sure how
to break up women apart from just being one collective group. One immediate thing
that comes to my mind is whether or not a father was present in the home. That
might affect outcomes. I did see some research on that recently at the men’s
conference, about a woman who had either two fathers or just you know the regular,
the most typical of mother plus the father, that when the father is present
they were more likely to be able to be competent with their work. They had
better outcomes with doing work and getting work done. That is sort of vague
sounding but that’s not the topic of the video. I digress.
Some people within highly successful groups may not be doing
very well but people don’t pay any attention to them, the wider society,
because their larger umbrella group is doing well. And conversely people may
receive preferential treatment when they belong to a subgroup that is doing very
well, even though the larger umbrella group is not. When talking about class,
these are mostly transient groups in real life although the statistical
category does not change when analyzing data over time. So when people talk about
the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, they are not necessarily
the same persons over decades or generations. There is a proportion of the
upper echelons that is inherited wealth but that has been steadily on the
decline. Using income to describe poverty or riches can be misleading
because a person’s income may vary drastically from year to year depending
on seasonality of profits due to the industry or cumulative earnings such as
capital gains. Another thing is that higher income does not necessarily mean
better ability to buy more things, depending on a person’s dependents, more
financial burdens, location-dependent living expenses, college or medical
expenses, and so on. So people screaming about the 1% may be screaming at people
who do not have much left over or who they are going to be later on in life.
When one group is being compared against the other, the age distribution within
the group may differ. And age is positively correlated with income. When
talking about household income, more people may be working in one household
and not another. There are probably many more examples but these are things I’ve
learned about. I don’t know how many other people are aware of them. But for
a country that’s so focused on pitting groups
against each other and using data to prove it, the whole country should know
that they need to be very competent in understanding data in order to glean a
narrative from it. Second of all, the data supporting the current narrative is
tenuous at best. Currently, the standard trope on TV is
that we live in a world of white supremacy or some variation of that, (U.S.
TV). This is generally backed up by data on how other groups, especially blacks, as
a whole earn less income than whites. And that
the lack of historical legal power through slavery, or preferential job
offerings, or community building can explain current trends. And if that can’t
explain it, then individual racism is the cause, even
though it can almost never be actually proven. This ignores the fact that- I’m
sorry I’m going to be just talking about people like they’re just in groups and
just members of groups, and they’re not to me, but this is how I have to talk
about it in order to respond to the way other people talk about it –
Asians and Jews earn more median income. Right now anytime I see data on blacks
and whites, I think other groups should be used as well. These groups I’ve
mentioned, Asians and Jews, are just standard groups that people think of, but
you can divide people up in different ways. And these two groups are succeeding
despite historical discrimination and experience of white supremacy in the
U.S., both through the state and individual prejudice and bias. Following
the same logic that blacks earning less than whites is evidence for their being
systemic discrimination, that would mean that whites as a whole earning less than
Asians as a whole are experiencing discrimination by Asian or Jewish
supremacy. So the same data that is used to define oppression between blacks and
whites in the U.S. is not important when talking about other groups. Really? One
counter-argument could be that the causal agent for one group’s success does
not have to be the same for another group’s success. But when it is the same
issue, that being discrimination, was actually experienced by the groups that
are now doing well, it simply negates the argument. From what I see, the data shows
that groups can and have succeeded in spite of discrimination.
I’m not saying discrimination is nice but it’s not the end of the world.
Therefore, discrimination does not automatically mean
being at the lower end of income earners. Wouldn’t that prompt people to say,
‘Maybe there is something else going on?’ It doesn’t have to be one thing; it could
be a combination of things. Another counter-argument to what I’m
saying could be that discrimination was not as bad. What can compare to… slavery..?
Well, apart from the difficulty, and or disrespect, in trying to quantitatively
define human emotions such as suffering, slaves are slaves. Slaves are slaves. In
this context, as in the U.S. because it happens overseas, only the people who
were slaves were slaves. No one after slavery ended was a slave. Then there is
the issue that other groups may have been treated just as badly as slaves
without bearing the title. An example is an Irish, as a whole historically. I
understand that this country, the US, has a history of racism, but if you actually
want to know the reasons behind why something happens, it involves asking why
and leaving no stone unturned to find that answer, not simply having a pre-made
answer in one’s head, especially after the conditions in the past which made
that answer acceptable no longer exist. that being legally encoded and enforced
discrimination. Everything is researched from this conclusion working backwards
rather than forward, as in ‘what is the cause of this’? People think they already
have the answer. And looking at other countries and nations
maybe might help, not just focusing on the US and everything that’s happened in
the US. What can be changed knowing that other countries had a history of
violence against groups, mostly not across color lines actually? And for
every group that later comes in, they’re being added to this history even though
where they came from they may not have had that influence, whether being
in the ‘oppressor’ role or the ‘oppressed’ role. But INSTANTLY when they come here
they suddenly take on this persona, which is very …strange. I think the conclusion
should be reconsidered. I did try and find papers on this. And
the majority of them are not even looking into the other factors, the other
variables you have to take into account. I know this information that I’m talking
about because of reading Thomas Sowell, who I love. He’s an incredible source. And
I do have some sources that I found that show some questionable things, like maybe
the type of degrees that black Americans tend to earn are not the ones that are
in highly specialized areas or areas that are in demand. The school you go to
also counts, not just because people are being biased because they think the
school might be better off. There’s that too. But it also actually affects what
you do when you go out into life because everywhere doesn’t actually provide the
same level and quality, even if the title is the same. And I know people are going
to say, ‘Oh it’s not their fault’. Well at some point it has to be somebody’s fault.
At some point, the person, the individual has to take it on for themselves
regardless of outside influence. I couldn’t find much data on controlling
for other variables except from Sowell. I think it’s interesting that there isn’t
much data on this because people should be taking these counter arguments, as in
mine, against a standard narrative seriously. There is data on income from
Asians, East Asians and not. I think this is something that is becoming well-known.
I also couldn’t find much data on persons of Jewish heritage except from
Sowell. And it’s interesting that Jews are now considered white, knowing that
they have had a long history of persecution, also in America. Third of all,
even if there is a statistical difference in outcomes such as earnings
and so on it could be due to characteristics within the group itself, as simple as a person’s desire to do
something different, or being socially pushed into certain fields. It could be
due to culture and associations with culture. Data on inequality can be
explained for by other things than discrimination, such as IQ or family
structure, though maybe not as a whole, and the data is out there. Why isn’t this
given as much attention if people actually want to solve the problem. You
can be afraid to put responsibility on the victims but how else will things
change? This is really interesting to me. How will it change, whether it is
something internal or external? Think about this. If it’s external, why focus on
changing other people? Why not focus on something that you can change that does not
need to involve controlling others, especially knowing that the presence of
discrimination does not mean that groups cannot do well. Economic prosperity often
comes before the lessening of discrimination, not the other way around.
I think I should repeat that. Economic prosperity often comes before the
lessening of discrimination, not the other way around.
Economic prosperity often comes before discrimination goes down,
not the other way around. It is not likely that politicians can fix that
problem. Economic prosperity also often has the opposite correlation, where you
are discriminated against because you are doing well. Striking examples that I
don’t hear mentioned often but I will never forget since I’ve learned them, are
Indians in Uganda and Chinese in Malaysia. This is in the past. I’m not
sure if it’s still going on for Malaysia. And I know that even then the blame
would still be outsourced to others. Wven if someone did something to you. It is
you who decides how to respond. Let me tell you something about my personal
life. As a teenager, my mother used to annoy me sometimes. And my father would
always say, ‘You can’t control her Desi-Rae. You have to learn to control your own
emotions. It is up to you how you want to respond.’ Whether or not that was the best
response, and of course I obviously didn’t succeed
at it often, it’s a true statement. You can’t control other people. You can
forever treat people as puppets being pulled around on a string, but that
leaves it’s up to everyone else to change their behavior rather than the
group. How is this going to work out? How is this not treating this group that
needs help as a child with no agency of their own. This is along gender or race
or whatever fricking identity line you want to cross. Stop treating people as if
they have no agency of their own. They do. Always. No matter how shitty people are
being to them. Fourth of all, this issue that I have with the standard narrative
of inequality and whatever supremacy, is that it allows people to ignore what is
going on in front of their REAL eyes in their REAL lives, not on the TV. But I’m
gonna stop here because this is already a long video. You can ponder what I meant
about the real eyes and real lives. I’ll get to it in the next video. There might be a
video in between this and the next one. But I’ll be continuing on this topic of
inequality and trying, like I really don’t see much of, to think of practical
non hysterical and not vague answers to the issues that we have in society today.
So I’ll get to do my welcome message all over again.
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Have a great day. I hope you’re doing well and I hope that you continue to do
well. I will talk to you soon. Goodbye. I had everything set up earlier and I
was ready to start and then it started raining and so then I went to eat some
popcorn because that’s what I was going to do afterwards. But I decided to do it
beforehand while I was waiting. And so, I had to then clean up the mess that
became my face or that my face became. And I put- cause I had to check my teeth, you know
cuz maybe had some popcorn inside there – and I put more lipstick on. And know I
think it’s a bit heavier than I would like. But that’s okay. I stopped doing
anything with my face for a bit mostly because I decided it wasn’t worth the time. And I was just trying to keep my content going
and not necessarily push it to the highest level it could be. Because I was
so busy doing other things and I still am. But now, I’m attempting to be more
…appealing? I know some people make some comments about how I don’t need it but
whatever. I’m just trying to be like more appealing and professional and my
appearance, okay? As a reminder, this is a redo of content
that I did which has really bad audio. And I hope no one ever finds it ever
again. I am just cracking myself up today. It’s nice.